Extraordinary claims, extraordinary evidence
Posted by RyftFeb 12
I can state without any sense of reservation that I really admired Carl Sagan as a popularizer of science. I miss him terribly and still cherish his remarkable legacy. The television series Cosmos, which he co-wrote with Ann Druyan, ignited my endless fascination with cosmology and astrophysics. Three of his books—Broca’s Brain, Pale Blue Dot, and Contact—are among the most tattered books on my shelf because I have read them so many times, and the latter still remains one of my favourite science fiction novels. (Even though the 1996 movie was really good, it just could not compare since, for obvious reasons, the book was able to explore nuances and depths that no movie ever could. And the plot device he turned π into? Pure genius!)
But his dictum that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” has come to irritate me something fierce, for no other reason than it ended up getting hijacked by parochial sycophants who are so remarkably irresponsible with it. It is inordinately popular with atheists because it feels in their hands like an impenetrable firewall shielding them against any and all theistic claims, but they wield the dictum horribly oblivious to a crucial handicap: they never bother to define univocal criteria for either what an extraordinary claim is or what extraordinary evidence looks like. The former is usually embellished with synonyms that never amount to a defining criterion, while the latter often gets positioned as anything that will not admit the supernatural. (For example, they usually posit circumstances or phenomena that never preclude possible natural explanations—e.g., God rearranging the stars to spell his name—being fenced in by Clarke’s Third Law on one side and Occam’s Razor on the other, for the evidence is always restricted to the empirical.) But also irritating is the audacious conceit of their demand, as if somehow their own intellectual sanction is a necessary instrument of validation for whatever claim was aired in their presence. “Without sufficient evidence to support your claim,” they usually say, “I am not able to believe it.” That may well be the case but, not to put too fine a point on it, what makes you think your belief is relevant or even required?
It is like the ghost story mentioned by Jacqueline Lavache in her article, which she has also invoked in conversations elsewhere as an illustration of an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. Yet has either Lavache or those who make a fetish of Sagan’s dictum thought this through? If I tell a friend about an encounter with a ghost, exactly what relevance does their personal belief have to the facts of my experience? Precisely none, so far as I can tell. Surely they are not so presumptuous as to think that nothing shall be deemed a fact until it has received their personal approbation. The problems with such a stance are legion and obvious. If I share with them the facts of my experience and they are unable to believe it themselves, what relevance does that have to the event in question? None, quite frankly. Neither the reality of the case nor the facts thereof have anything to do with their ability to believe it. Further, it is actually a logical fallacy; for someone to think that some P is not a fact because he is unable to believe it himself is to commit the argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy (which, in this case, takes the form of an argument from personal incredulity).
The issue becomes even more salient when theistic claims are discussed. (I should like to focus the point on things I do believe, as opposed to things like ghosts which are not part of my mental furniture. I will let those who believe in ghosts do business with such issues, while I shall engage my actual convictions.) Suppose that someone overhears me stating that moral order is grounded in the very nature and character of God and expressed prescriptively in his commands, to which the person responds, “That is an extraordinary claim.” But is it? You see, I have to wonder if this person has thought the matter through. What, exactly, is the univocal criterion for indentifying a claim as extraordinary? Despite having read a wealth of atheistic literature both in print and online, from recognized scholars to armchair philosophers, and despite having engaged in countless discussions with a significant cross section of the atheist community, not once have I ever encountered a definitive univocal criterion. At minimum, atheists merely indicate one statement after another as being extraordinary, as though I am somehow supposed to guess the criterion by unearthing a common denominator. At most they simply embellish the adjective, as I said earlier, with synonyms that never amount to a criterion.
The closest thing to a univocal criterion that I have seen was given by Laurence Boyce who, in his article, determined that the criterion should be fashioned after Hume’s maxim (in which he suggests that we replace every instance of “miraculous” with “extraordinary” and the like), rendering the reading of it as follows:
No testimony is sufficient to establish [an extraordinary claim], unless the testimony be of such a kind that its falsehood would be more [extraordinary] than the fact which it endeavours to establish.
That sounds good, on the face of it, but do you notice the inherent problem? This cannot serve as a criterion at all, for it is committed to the same problem I identified earlier; namely, it is an embellishment that does not amount to a criterion. It says that some testimony (evidence) is extraordinary when its falsehood is more extraordinary than the fact (claim) which it attempts to establish; in other words, the criterion uses the very thing it is supposed to define.
Boyce also stated elsewhere, in the comments area of his article, that an extraordinary claim “is one that, among other things, contradicts claims that are already backed by extraordinary evidence.” While I wish that he had identified what those “other things” might be, this formulation is even less workable and therefore ignored; what Boyce here describes as “claims that have extraordinary evidence against them” are in fact delusions, according to medical dictionary definitions.
And throughout his entire piece Boyce makes frequent reference to the probability that one would believe that X, or that he has not asked anyone to accept X, or what it would take in order for one to accept X, or wanting people to think X is true, etc. That is, he falls prey to my aforementioned criticism: “Neither the reality of the case nor the facts thereof have anything to do with their ability to believe it.” I do not care if someone is unable to believe X, for it has no bearing on the truth of X. To think otherwise commits the logical fallacy I had identified.
So Boyce failed to establish a univocal criterion for what constitutes an ‘extraordinary’ claim, and his description of evidence was less ‘extraordinary’ than ‘sufficient’. As my friend Martin Pate indicated (one of very few intelligent atheists I have been fortunate enough to meet), “Sagan’s dictum makes it sound like any claim which violates widely subscribed beliefs or received wisdom automatically is at an evidentiary disadvantage. This is simply prejudicial,” which he juxtaposes against probative value.
So the next time you hear someone say, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,” confront that assertion head-on. You are well within the epistemic right to ask what he even means; and in all likelihood, he does not himself know, but is rather just parroting a dictum he has made a fetish of without ever giving it serious thought. There are three things you want to know: (1) What is an ‘extraordinary claim’, and what is ‘extraordinary evidence’? (2) Specifically, what is the univocal criterion for establishing either? (3) What does their ability to believe that some X is true have to do with whether or not X is actually true?
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See also Shandon L. Guthrie, “Atheism and the Argumentum ad Ignorantiam: Why atheists cannot avert the burden of proof,” 21 August 2006.




10 comments
Comment by Rene Mulder on 16 Feb 2010 at 15:03
I guess this whole thing finds root in people (non-believers) who wish to control themselves the terms of what would convince them to believe. By not stating exactly what those terms would be, they can ALWAYS disregard presented 'evidence' and go on with their non-believing ways. They want to keep control and somehow ensure that presented evidence will never meet their criteria.
At the office where I work, we often debate religion/atheism etc. and my employer is another example of this. He himself says he won't believe in God untill He writes on the wall right away, something like “Hi, here I am”.
However, he immediatly states, albeit in a joking matter, that he'd first have to go see a 'shrink' to determine that he is not crazy, and the writings would still need to be there the next morning. That'd be the moment he'd start believing.
Whatever happened to the ol' lightningbolt anyway?
I'm not quite sure where it says it in the Bible, but I'm fairly sure I read that God Himself chooses the terms of which he will reveal Himself to people, as well as the time and place for it.
Comment by Hermiene on 17 Feb 2010 at 13:36
This is something I've thought about a lot (I'm an atheist, by the way).
To start on a slightly digressive preamble, my father and my (crazy, in my opinion) uncle (who is a Jehovah's Witness) often discuss religious topics, and once when I was very little and overheard one such discussion, I jumped in and wanted to know from my uncle why God didn't reveal Himself if He wanted us to believe in him. “Why doesn't God just levitate this bottle on the table?” I innocently inquired.
That was then. At the time I obviously didn't know about David Hume, but if I'd known a little about him and his philosophy I would have cited him. Moses had a visit from God in the form of a burning bush that wasn't consumed by the flames, but I actually don't think I would be convinced by levitating bottles, or writings on the wall (ahem…), or burning bushes. For one thing, first I'd have to be sure that it couldn't be explained by natural phenomena. If I'd failed to do that, and if, further, I could find no evidence of someone putting on a hoax, then I'd have to seriously consider if I were hallucinating (which could be a very real possibility).
I must admit that I haven't given much thought to what WOULD be good evidence. I call myself an atheist because it simply is true that I don't believe in gods, in this point in time. (I'll probably be an atheist tomorrow, and for the rest of my life, but who knows?)
Comment by Rick Baskett on 17 Feb 2010 at 20:38
Hi Hermiene, Im not an atheist, but I would go about the process of trying to explain something the same way that you outlined. I think the big difference is that just because I tripped over a tiny rock in the street and barely missed getting hit by a bus and could explain it away it doesn't mean that there wasn't a supernatural force involved in that whole event. It doesn't mean that there was either, but I don't count it out right off the bat just because I can explain it away.
I do think that's an excellent question to begin with, what WOULD be good evidence? I've gone back and forth and looked at evidence, looked at the arguments, and Im realizing there is not going to be 100% evidence for God or against God. There is a leap that needs to be done on both sides of the camp. I personally believe that there is a God due to the evidence that I have seen. Can I prove it without a shadow of a doubt.. no I can't, just like there is no proof without a shadow of a doubt against God. It comes down to.. what WOULD be good enough evidence to be an atheist or to believe in God? Great question that every person needs to answer for themselves.
Comment by Hermiene on 18 Feb 2010 at 07:56
Rick:
I'm on board with you when it comes to evidence for or against God being a matter of probability. As for the leap of faith, I don't think atheists need to take a leap at all. If we visualize the metaphor as two people standing at the edge of a chasm, you seem to think that the rock they're standing on is crumbling, and they need to take a leap of faith either to the close rock of theism, or the equally close rock of atheism before the foundation crumbles. I think the foundation is pretty solid, and if a leap is to be taken at all, it is “towards” Christianity. (That's all assuming that it IS a leap of faith at all, which I don't think is necessarily true of all Christians.)
Comment by Rene Mulder on 18 Feb 2010 at 17:08
I think I get what you're saying. I don't think the leap of faith is true for everyone either. There are many ways that might lead one to a certain belief, there is no one way, which is what we see in the Bible. In the case of Christianity, it's not a special trick that works for everyone, it's usually very personal and always adequate.
We believe that God knows what people need. He can see in our hearts and minds, and knows our thoughts as well as the thoughts behind our thoughts. The thoughts behind our thoughts can betray us, and God will always find the truth. So even when we say “I'll do this when God proves Himself doing that”, if there is an impure thought behind that thought, it's not likely going to happen. It's not real.
Knowing this, people are not likely to come to belief because what they think will convince them, but rather what God KNOWS will convince them.
I myself have been forced to go to church during my younger years, but I did not receive my personal adequate “evidence” untill a year and a half ago. (am 25 this year)
I believe God knew what I needed to convince me, and He gave that to me. :) My faith has never been stronger than it is today.
I think everyone has a personal obstacle that might keep them from seeing the truth (about anything really, not just religion). The obstacle needs to be shattered first, if that doesn't happen, you can hear the truth a thousand times, it'll never hit its target.
That's what I think anyway.
Comment by Rick Baskett on 18 Feb 2010 at 17:51
Faith is based on evidence. Maybe leap was a bad word.. step is better? Prove to me that macroevolution is true, please demonstrate it for me?
Comment by Duane on 19 Feb 2010 at 01:26
I don't know if you meant that as a rhetorical question, but perhaps this thread is a little too abstract for discussing something as specific as evolutionary proofs? It's Ryft's post though, so if he wants to allow that diversion I guess it's up to him.
Comment by Rene Mulder on 19 Feb 2010 at 04:52
I think step is a better word for it, because 'leap' might suggest you don't know what you're getting into, but here it goes anyway. With Christianity, you should know what you're getting into, seeing how you can read it in the Bible.
Sometimes evidence comes before a choice, and sometimes a choice comes before the evidence. It always begins with hearing the message.
Comment by Rick Baskett on 19 Feb 2010 at 12:31
My point was that there comes a time where once all the evidence is piled up for both world views that you need to make a choice, a “step”, into that world view. Both can not be proven without a shadow of a doubt.
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