Pro-Life: Stripping Women of their Rights?
Posted by MathewApr 24
There is little doubt in my mind that the pro-choicer today doesn’t have much of an argument that he can hang his hat on. When flailing and pontificating about abortion as a “choice”, his only real avenue is to resort to a discussion of rights. He cannot say that the unborn are not human – it is a medical fact that they are – and therefore that abortion doesn’t kill human beings. No – the pro-choicer must resort to other arguments; in fact, in advocating abortion he attempts to rationalize for the legal killing of an innocent human being by advocating for women’s rights. Hence, while his argument may concede that the unborn are indeed human beings he then declares that that ought to have no bearing on a pregnant woman’s rights to her bodily autonomy. But does the woman really have the right to kill her own offspring? Does the bodily autonomy argument hold up under close scrutiny? Well, if a recent discussion I had on the topic is anything to go by, I really do think the argument is left wanting. And if so, then surely the pro-choicer has no choice but to abandon his ill-fated position.
It Started at the End
I had been reading Ravi Zacharias’s book, The End of Reason: A Response to the New Atheists, which was written in response to the vitriol published by Sam Harris in his book, Letter to a Christian Nation. There was one particular discussion in Zacharias’s book that I took a liking to – not at all related to Harris’s book when taken out of its context, but one which served effectively well as a conversation starter on the topic of abortion and morality.
The quote I lifted from Zacharias’s book (and which I modified slightly to publish via Twitter was:
When God decides who should live or die, he is immoral. When you [as an advocate of abortion] decide who should live or die, it’s your moral right?
Zarcharias’s point is pretty clear: who are we, as created beings of the God who authored all life, to decide who should live or die? By what standard can we, for example, label God as immoral for allowing death by disaster yet hold ourselves to be moral for electing to kill innocent human beings? To suggest that we are morally justified to decide who can live and who can die, but that God has no such right, is a patently absurd notion from the outset.
A few hours after I sent the above Tweet, I received a reply from someone who I’ll just refer to as @TweeterStranger. Here’s her Tweet back to me with her reply starting after the “>>”:
When we dcide who lives & dies [via abortion] it’s our moral right? >> A woman can choose what she does w/her own body
I responded with words similar to the following: yet it is not her body that she kills, nor even a part of her body that she removes[1]. She kills – whether knowingly or not – a distinct human being. (And this human being, I should have added, is exactly in the right environment at exactly the right period of time of that stage of life: in the womb.)
To which @TweeterStranger replied, again: it is in her body; therefore, it is her choice.
Those of you familiar with pro-choice rhetoric will of course recognize such a response as an appeal to personal, bodily autonomy and privacy. There’s no addressing the morality of the issue of abortion – supposedly, whether or not there is a moral concern, it is trumped by a mother’s right to the use of her own body as she deems fit. (So instead of talking about morals, we’re talking about rights – and the two are not necessarily synonymous.)
In effect, the bodily autonomy argument declares that, in certain situations, it is morally permissible to terminate the life of an innocent[2] human being. (Am I the only one to whom that sounds crazy? Name any other situation in which we would deem it ok to kill an innocent human?) Never mind the fact that what is created at conception is, as a statement of scientific and medical fact, a distinct human being. No, far from it: the mother allegedly has every right to crush and dismember or poison to death an innocent human being for the sake of her “right” to bodily autonomy.
During my 42 Tweet-exchange with @TweeterStranger, she spent 38% of her replies reiterating the same rhetoric over and over again: her body, her choice. Repeatedly, I’d requested why she believes a woman has an inalienable right to bodily autonomy when such a “right” tramples over the inalienable right to life of the human being who is killed, but this was to no avail. The challenge remained unanswered or, at best, was brushed aside with annoyance.
The Magic of the 7-inch Birth Canal
@TweeterStranger presumes that there exists a right to bodily autonomy (as well as to privacy). The basic premises of this argument, as I understand it, are two-fold: 1) a person has a right to do what they wish with their body; 2) no one else has a right to violate or to use another’s body. For @TweeterStranger, and many like her, these two premises are perfectly sufficient to justify abortion. But if the bodily autonomy advocate is true to their stance, this argument in favor of abortion must give way to other scenarios in which they themselves would be horrified at.
Consider this snippet of my conversation with TweeterStranger:
TweeterStranger: Point is, mother makes choices for her child for years. Child can’t decide if it wants to be born, mom decides what’s best.
TweetingOutLoud (me): If mom decides best could she not kill her crippled 2 year old toddler and still claim her right to choice?
TweeterStranger: If she gives birth to the child, it’s a different story, obviously. At that point, she made her choice to take care of it.
TweeterStranger: In short, no she can’t [kill her toddler]. Before it’s born, while it’s still in her body? Yes, of course she can; that’s her right to choose.
TweeterStranger: Mother has a right to her body and whatever’s inside it. After the child is born, it’s a separate human with it’s own rights.
Notice the line of thinking here: killing a child who is inside the womb is permissible, while killing a child outside of the womb is not. The big question is, “Why?”. And the typical response is, “Because it’s inside the mother’s body!” What’s a poor unborn child to do? Inside the womb it is at the mercy of its mother; outside of the womb, it is protected by law, even from its mother. How strange. And how inconsistent!
Such a response is really unsatisfactory and is nothing more than an attempt to avoid the reality of what abortion does: kills a defenseless child. @TweeterStranger was happy to contend that a mother could not terminate the life of her 2 year-old, citing that the mother had made her decision and was now responsible[3], but she doesn’t suggest why the mother is now morally obligated nor why the same responsibility and obligation didn’t exist prior to birth. How is it exactly that a child, two days before exiting the womb is any less deserving of life than a child two days out of the womb? (Or, for that matter, just minutes either side of the birth canal?) There is little that is physically different or cognitively different, and the child remains dependent on the mother’s care for survival. The location of the child has changed, but why should that matter? It’s not as if the child becomes something else entirely simply because it has moved from one place to another. Where’s the magic?
The problem here for the likes of @TweeterStranger is that the toddler is afforded protection under law by sheer virtue of him being a human being, not because he is no longer inside his mother’s womb; human beings, as we know, have a right to life; further, the unborn are also human beings; hence, unborn human beings likewise have a right to life by virtue of their ontological status as human beings. You cannot argue that your right to life is made null and void because of your location. Are you any different a person if you’re in one country over another? You’re still you, right? That you are you as an unborn child inside the womb of your mother no more cancels out your human beingness than a car ceases to be a car when it leaves the garage.
Talking of rights doesn’t even come into the picture and nor should it. Society expects mothers to care for their offspring – there is an obligation that they do so. Medical practitioners cannot knowingly provide a pregnant mother a drug that will cause the deformation of her unborn child, even if the use of that drug will be a great convenience to the mother (i.e. ease her morning sickness). The question is why this is the case. The answer is that the unborn are human beings and are deserving of our nurturing and protection. This is not to say that pregnant mothers aren’t to be cared for – they are and they are to be supported in instances where the pregnancy is burdensome and unexpected. Moreover, it is to say that where innocent life hangs in the balance, there is a greater obligation (not charity, nor an act of goodwill, but obligation!) to forego one’s own “right” to privacy and bodily autonomy for the sake of the most defenseless in our society. Our children.
At the end of the day, a pro-choicer must aptly put forward sound reasons for stating why an unborn human being has no right to life and that its mother has every right to terminate its life for any reason she so desires. He must further demonstrate why it is okay to kill a perfectly innocent human. These, to me, sound like very unpalatable and overly problematic positions to defend[4] as I’m sure many of you will agree and on which I believe @TweeterStranger faulted.
For those interested in further Tweets I publish, feel free to follow me via Twitter; I’d also encourage you to follow us here at The Aristophrenium while you’re at it, too.
Pro-life Resources:
- ”The Case for Life”, Scott Klusendorf, Crossway Books
- Unstringing the violinist
- Five Bad Ways to Argue About Abortion
- Trespassing in the Womb
- Competing Rights – When it’s Okay for a Mother to Kill her Child
Footnotes:
[1] Science tells us great deal about the unborn. We know that from conception, a unique being is created that has a different genetic makeup from both its mother and father. As such, the unborn is not a part of the woman’s body; because of this, no woman can claim that abortion is akin to simply electing to surgically remove an ulcer. Her unborn is not part of her body – in fact, her body seeks to attack it and the unborn defends itself. You can’t get a clearer example of the distinctness of the unborn than that. Yes, the unborn child is attached and draws nourishment from the mother; yes, the mother’s body reacts to the presence of the unborn; and yet, the unborn is not parasitical for it is precisely where an unborn human being should be – it is in its natural state and pregnancy is a natural state for the female body. Where else could it go?
[2] By “innocent” I mean this is in the purely societal, vernacular sense. For instance, we do not condemn – as a general rule and as a matter of principal – a man to death for a crime that he did not commit. Some critics of the pro-life view hold that pro-lifers put themselves in a bind when they use terms such as “innocent human being” when referring to the unborn. They claim that Christian doctrine teaches that all humans are sinful from the moment of conception – which is true. As most Christians are pro-life, the critics say, they cannot call the unborn “innocent” because that would contradict the doctrinal understanding that all humans are sinful. Such a claim is not only ignorant of the biblical understanding of sin – which is an intolerable offense towards a holy and righteous God – but they also misunderstand the usage of the term “innocence” in a secular court of law. Properly understood, to be “innocent” is to be “harmless” or to be “not guilty” of an act of harm. I fail to see how the term “innocent” cannot be legitimately applied to the unborn who, confined in their mothers’ wombs cannot intentionally act in any harmful manner towards anyone – even their mother.
[3] Interestingly, if @TweeterStranger believes that the mother is responsible for the child after it’s born because she chose to birth the child, I wonder why she believes the mother has no responsibility to the child when she engaged in the sexual activity that created him? Surely, if no child was desired, she ought to have refrained from such activity? Seems perfectly logical to me.
[4] Let me state from the outset: I’m male. I’ve never been pregnant, nor ever will be and neither have I been raped. I state these early for a few reasons. My gender has no bearing on the pro-life contention that the unborn are human beings. My inability to become pregnant likewise has no bearing on the fact that the unborn are human beings. For argument’s sake, if I were female and could become pregnant, even the fact that I’ve never been raped does not change the biologically certain conclusion that the unborn are human beings. Do you see the trend? If you want to argue “rights”, then please do so in the context of the humanness of the unborn and tell me why bodily autonomy – as a right – is a “higher” right than a human being’s right to life.





26 comments
Comment by JohnOneOne on 24 Apr 2010 at 10:46
Excellent points. The pro-abortionists are left shouting “la la la la la” and covering their ears when it comes to their chanting of, “My body, my choice.”
You can tell them 100 times that they are ignoring the rights of the human being whose body is going to be destroyed, but they'll pretend they didn't hear you.
Comment by JohnOneOne on 24 Apr 2010 at 10:48
P.S. That was Neil from Eternity Matters — I didn't realize you used Disqus. I have an account with the name JohnOneOne for posting at places like Sojourners (until they banned me for politely — in excellent Stand to Reason style — annihilating their bad theology and pro-abortion arguments ;-) .
Comment by Mathew on 24 Apr 2010 at 11:59
In this one particular instance, I've found that to be very true indeed. In fact, I've re-engaged the same person and again she continues to repeat the same mantra: her body, her choice. She has not addressed any objection I've raised.
Instead she claims I'm ignoring her point. I'm not ignoring it; I'm testing it. And I fail to see how her “point” is relevant given that an innocent human life is at stake.
Comment by Rick Baskett on 24 Apr 2010 at 17:07
I may be “lucky” that I have only encountered a couple people that cover their ears that chant “lalalalalalalala”. Most people that I have talked with converse politely, some even realizing that they need to look into it more thoroughly, and others realizing that there are some really good arguments on the pro-life side. The SLED acronym seems to lead people to the truth quite effectively… when they are open to having a better understanding of the issue.
I used to be pro-choice myself, until I heard the arguments on the pro-life side and did my own studying.
Comment by Mathew on 24 Apr 2010 at 20:21
The SLED argument is very concise and effective. I originally had it in my article, but it never really crept up in conservation (so I took it out) with @TweeterStranger – if I couldn't get her past the “but it's her body!” claim nor get her to answer why that mattered, the SLED wasn't really going to fit. I'm sure there'll be opportunity in future, however.
For the record, I distinctly remember being one of those “abortion's not right for me, but I won't stop you” type people. As I grew in my knowledge of Christianity and of philosophy, that slowly changed …
… actually, I had a similar stance on just about all the ethical/moral-type topics I write about now. Interesting.
Comment by Mathew on 24 Apr 2010 at 20:23
Also, for those interested in the entire exchange, feel free to email me for a copy. I have no qualms in doing so – the discussion is on the public record anyway (being conducted via Twitter).
You may even be able to tell me how I could have been more effective in the conversation!
Comment by Adam on 25 Apr 2010 at 07:45
That quote is a good converstation starter. I think I will steal it to see if I get any bites on Facebook.
Comment by René Mulder on 25 Apr 2010 at 14:58
I always wonder if these pro-choice people are people who are actually facing tough times and in 'need to' consider abortion or just outsiders who want to hold on to those 'human rights' (for whatever reason) even though they'll probably never be in that position of having to make the choice themselves.
The 'complainers' are not often the actual 'victim' I think. Its so easy to shout from the sideline (which I guess is what I'm doing right now too).
That said, unless people start putting God in the equation, they're probably not going to find good grounds to change their mind on this topic.
“There is no sin”?
Comment by Mathew on 25 Apr 2010 at 20:58
Thanks René. What you say is of course important: those who argue for the pro-choice camp may be doing so because they themselves have been scarred. Perhaps they were molested when younger, or raped and became pregnant. Perhaps they're angry that they weren't given the “choice” to terminate their pregnancy. In such instances, it is understandable that they may argue for bodily autonomy as a right because they themselves have been violated.
Conversely, the same could be said about those on the pro-life side. Perhaps you were the father wanting children, but your partner didn't and terminated the pregnancy against your will. Or maybe you and your spouse can't naturally conceive and are outraged that perfectly healthy babies are being aborted for frivolous reasons. Or maybe you, yourself, were very nearly aborted by your mother or you survived a botched abortion.
These reasons may be your motivation for taking sides. Yet, in either case, the facts of what abortion does do not change. It makes no sense to me that we should argue based on personal, emotive reasons which vary from person to person. It makes perfect sense that we argue as objectively as we can for the sheer fact that the life of a defenseless human being is at stake.
Comment by René Mulder on 26 Apr 2010 at 05:01
Ah yes, of course the same would go for the pro-life side. Thanks for pointing that out, I shouldn't overlook that either.
I completely agree that this problem should be approached from the facts and on an objective level (and of course for Christians, with God's rule as ultimate authority).
Comment by Rick Baskett on 26 Apr 2010 at 15:59
I thought you might be interested in this last debate with Alan. Im sure you know about it Mathew, but for the sake of everyone else… :)
http://strplace.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/my-abo...
Comment by Mathew on 27 Apr 2010 at 00:38
Cheers, Rick. I had seen his opening 10 mins, but not the remainder of the debate. I'll endeavour to watch the rest later. Thanks for posting it here – I've no doubt other readers will find it of interest.
Comment by Mathew on 27 Apr 2010 at 00:43
Thanks, Bahama – and welcome to Aristo!
That's a good pickup. Frankly, I'm surprised that some pro-choicers still maintain that the unborn are just an extension of their body when this is demonstrably and scientifically false. From the moment of conception, we have a human being come into existence that has a distinct genetic makeup unique from both its father and mother.
Interesting tact you take on addressing pro-choice thinking. I think your objection has some merit as I'm sure the pro-choicer would not like to consider abortion to be the result of a pathological disorder. In which case, they would need to re-evaluate their argument.
Comment by René Mulder on 27 Apr 2010 at 04:03
Okay, I've watched some of the debate posted by Rick, and read the comments here and come to this conclusion, or rather should I say roadblock.
I can see how people would eventually change their minds about the seperate/not separate (of the mother's body) issue, because of the scientific facts. But I don't really see a way yet around the issue of 'what to do with those victims (of rape) who are forced to keep the child and raise it under redicilously bad circumstances'.
I see now, fot this and other reasons why this is such a difficult topic.
What are some main arguments to answer to that last issue? Or does it, in the end, come down to responsibility, or good will of people around the 'victim'?
Comment by Mathew on 27 Apr 2010 at 06:19
René, these are good questions to ask. Inevitably, in discussing the topic of abortion the question of rape and / or incest arises. It's important to acknowledge, however, that this roadblock is an emotional one and as such carries with it a good amount of rhetorical force. It's equally important to acknowledge that we can often be dealing with real feelings of real people, too, and as such the matter deserves a degree of compassion.
However, compassion ought not railroad what is at stake: the innocent human life that was conceived. (You can still be compassionate toward the mother and maintain the sanctity of life of the unborn – the two aren't mutually exclusive.) That fact doesn't disappear just because there are emotional difficulties. Terminating the life of the unborn does not punish the rapist and nor can it atone for the crime. It may alleviate some grief for the mother but then it may also make her grief worse. There are also other health complications to consider that are connect with abortion – such as increased risks of breast cancer, depression and infertility later in life. In any case, there are agencies and centres that are willing to support – emotionally and financially and medically – mothers in this type of situation, offering them real choices instead of “ending' the matter with the death of the child.
When you think about it, does it really make any sense that we ought to punish the unborn for the crime of its father?
For some further reading, you might like to read Greg Kouk's article, Rape & Abortion.
Come back here and let us know your thoughts on what Greg had to say, or if you have other questions, too.
Comment by René Mulder on 27 Apr 2010 at 12:13
Thanks Mathew :)
I read Greg's article and there is one point that doesn't sit well with me, which is a point you used as well. That point is, as it is stated in your case “…does it really make any sense that we ought to punish the unborn for the crime of its father.”
Obviously I should answer “no, that doesn't make sense”. But technically, the goal of abortion is not to punish the criminal (rapist), and I think it isn't good reasoning to present it as if it is.
The article puts it like this:
“He could say: Why should this revolting crime against a woman be answered by taking the child's life? Oh, I understand that might ease the mother's pain, it might make the mother feel better (though, it may make things more difficult, too). But even if it did, even if she felt great afterwards, is that a good reason to take the life of an innocent human being, because it removes the reminder of the terrible violation she experienced? We wouldn't even allow the mother to kill the rapist, the one who did the crime, to make her feel better. Why should we then let her kill the child? “
I would argue that there is a HUGE difference between 'feeling better because you get revenge' and 'feeling better knowing your life won't be so difficult now that you've decided to end the life of the 'unwanted (unborn) child'.
So that line of thinking has fallacious tendencies if I get it right. I think it appeals to the wrong thing (I use the word thing here because I can't express what I mean very well, my apoligies)
Of course given the context, the argument does in fact build on other arguments.
I guess what I'm saying, in short, is that I don't think we should see abortion as punishing the unborn baby for a crime, but rather as what it is: ending the life of a human being. PERIOD
Seeing how the end result (death) is what the argument is ultimatly about, not the reason behind it (abortion).
Furthermore, I would say at this time my stance would be: review each case of unwanted pregnancy, evaluate if the mother is fit to care for the child at all, or not. And act accordingly: if she can, monitor the mother for a certain amount of years, give aid etc etc. If not, somehow adopt the child and place it in a healthy environment where it can still have a 'normal' life. Which brings on a whole host of practical problems, which will lead to the conclusion below*.
In the end, we are all adopted children of God. It doesn't matter ultimately if a child grows up with its original parents or not. And of course, the core of the problem is still sin.
*And no government can carry the burden of a sinful nation, let alone the world. Only one Man did that…what was His name again…
Comment by Mathew on 27 Apr 2010 at 21:27
You're thinking through the issues quite well, Rene. A few thoughts re: your last comments: “But technically, the goal of abortion is not to punish the criminal (rapist), and I think it isn't good reasoning to present it as if it is.”
I agree with you: the goal of abortion is not to punish the rapist – that's an absurd notion. But it's clear that abortion does punish someone: the unborn. What's more, the punishment is a death sentence. That's the point that is being conveyed. As an aside, what do you think the goal of abortion is for the pro-choicer? And do you think any of their responses provide sufficient reason for the killing of an innocent unborn human being?
Perhaps we could state it this way: is it permissible to kill an innocent human being to alleviate a mother's burden?
“I guess what I'm saying, in short, is that I don't think we should see abortion as punishing the unborn baby for a crime, but rather as what it is: ending the life of a human being. PERIOD
Seeing how the end result (death) is what the argument is ultimatly about, not the reason behind it (abortion).”
Bingo. You don't know how delighted I am to hear you say that. That is precisely what the issue of abortion is about. If people claim it's not, they must either: 1) demonstrate how the unborn are not human beings; 2) demonstrate why unborn human beings ought to have no rights to life. On the latter, simply trumpeting “my body, my choice” is not sufficient.
“Review each case of unwanted pregnancy, evaluate if the mother is fit to care for the child at all, or not. And act accordingly: if she can, monitor the mother for a certain amount of years, give aid etc etc. If not, somehow adopt the child and place it in a healthy environment where it can still have a 'normal' life.”
Right. And this is what institutions like Crisis Pregnancy Centres do and do well, free of charge. JohnOneOne, who commented earlier, is actively involved in such institutions and can tell you more of the work and benefits they provide to mothers than I can.
“In the end, we are all adopted children of God. It doesn't matter ultimately if a child grows up with its original parents or not. And of course, the core of the problem is still sin.”
I disagree with a portion of this: God designed the family to be structured in a particular manner. When that structure is not present (or is dysfunctional), it causes problems for society. That God adopts us as children is of course true – and while in this life, accepting that offer of adoption does ease the burden of sinful consequences (but does not necessarily take them away) of a fallen world, but in a fallen world we still remain until we are gathered up by Christ Himself.
Comment by Duane on 27 Apr 2010 at 22:09
Mathew: “I disagree with a portion of this”
Unless by “ultimately”, Rene is referring to the final place in the Kingdom for those who are adopted children of God?
Comment by Mathew on 27 Apr 2010 at 22:35
Ah, indeed he did. I stand corrected.
Comment by René Mulder on 28 Apr 2010 at 03:30
“Perhaps we could state it this way: is it permissible to kill an innocent human being to alleviate a mother's burden?”
This would indeed be a better way to state it I think. :) Altough adding 'innocent' may appeal to emotion, while it should appeal to justice. That may just be my interpretation, so let's just leave it as it is and go with 'innocent'
I'm also glad that I started thinking more about this issue. I didn't think it was much of an issue in my country anymore these days (I am not at all informed on our laws), but I read an online newspaper the other day and read that it is indeed still a 'hot topic' in my country as well.
(You would not want to read the comments on that article. They're terribly misinformed and hateful!)
I ran into an old acquintance the other day as well, and we had a long conversation about religion, philosophy etc. and abortion also came up.
While we didn't exactly argue about it, I was glad to be at least somewhat informed now, thanks to you guys and what I've read here.
The entire conversation was very relaxed and respectful, and I was reaffirmed in my own faith by the way it went.
Finally: I think today a Christian political party in my country is going to plant some 30.000 plastic fetusses (feti?) in the political capitol as a means to demonstrate against, I'm guessing current, abortion laws.
I can't find the article about it anymore, but I think that was the gist of it. I'm curious what will come out of it :)
Comment by Mathew on 28 Apr 2010 at 03:45
René – it's very pleasing to hear that the material you're reading on this blog has been of practical benefit to you. Thank you for letting us know – it is a great encouragement to us. It is one of the reasons that the four of us write.
“Altough adding 'innocent' may appeal to emotion, while it should appeal to justice. That may just be my interpretation, so let's just leave it as it is and go with 'innocent'.”
Did you read my footn0te #3 above? I think I sort of address this in that note. Let me know if not and I'll be happy to clarify.
“I can't find the article about it anymore, but I think that was the gist of it. I'm curious what will come out of it :)”
Two things: 1) it'd be great if you could locate the article – I'd be interested in reading it; 2) from which country do you herald?
Comment by René Mulder on 28 Apr 2010 at 04:48
Ah yes, I see now (its footnote 2 actually). My bad for not reading that :) It's all clear now.
I've managed to locate the article as well as the website that is connected with the organization pulling off the 'stunt'.
The website does have an English section, but not a full on translated version of all site content, so I'll do my best to translate the Dutch article as presented on the one newspaper website (said newspaper doesn't have a very good reputation here).
Sidenote: when I Googled on the subject I found reports from earlier years as well. It seems this organization has done simmilar 'stunts' with sending plastic fetusses in the past, with apparently, good results.
Okay, so this is the link to the Dutch news article: Article (The website itself isn't always accurate in its reporting, but most of the article is quoted from the organization' s website)
And this is the link to the website of organization 'Scream for Life' the article in question
My own translation of the article from the first link:
“Tuesday, April 27, 2010 | The Hage”
'Disgust over fetus-stunt'
“Abortion-doctors are not exactly happy with the new stunt by organisation 'Scream for Life'. Chairman Bert Dorenbos is placing 30.000 plastic fetusses on ' The Square' in The Hage”
“We want to show that a 10 weak old fetus is already a real child”, he says.
“Ethically irresponsible and respectless” is what the doctors call this stunt.
“Dorenbos knows nothing of women who've had an abortion”, says doctor Rebecca Gomperts in Sp!ts (a free newspaper). “The majority of them feel relieved and satisfied afterwards”
“It is announced on the website of 'Scream for Life' that “30.000 killed unborn children will be placed on the square across the entrance to the Second Board (the board that deals with laws). These children call for right and justice. Their innocent bloed has flown with the law in hand. They scream for life for the hundreds of children who are killed in clinics in hospitals every day.”, says their (the organization's) website.”
Note that I use the word 'stunt' for a lack of better term.
(In case it's still not clear by now, I am from the Netherlands :) )
Comment by Duane on 28 Apr 2010 at 05:26
ah, that'd be footnote #2 I believe
:)
Comment by Mathew on 28 Apr 2010 at 05:54
.. you see the “2″ key on your keyboard? It's right next to the “3″ key, so there's my excuse. At any rate, I've corrected my previous comment so *waves hands magically* n e v e r h a p p e n e d. :P
Comment by Mathew on 28 Apr 2010 at 22:38
test comment
Comment by Mathew on 29 Apr 2010 at 20:21
Readers of this article may also be interested in its predecessor, Pro-Birth: too painful to bring to term, which I also wrote based on this same discussion with @TweeterStranger, albeit that article was confined to an extrapolation of the loaded term pro-birth only.