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		<title>By: A Christ-centred three months &#8211; and counting! : thoughts out !oud</title>
		<link>http://aristophrenium.com/mathew/discussing-god-science-and-sanity/#comment-1068</link>
		<dc:creator>A Christ-centred three months &#8211; and counting! : thoughts out !oud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I lament over the deplorable display of Christian thinking on an Australian TV panel that hosted Richard Dawkins when he was here for the global atheists convention [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryft Braeloch</title>
		<link>http://aristophrenium.com/mathew/discussing-god-science-and-sanity/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryft Braeloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rene&#039;s question adds all the more weight to my request of you, Mathew, maybe last week sometime when I asked about you writing a certain sort of article for the site... :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rene&#39;s question adds all the more weight to my request of you, Mathew, maybe last week sometime when I asked about you writing a certain sort of article for the site&#8230; :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Rene Mulder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene Mulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of audience...For a while now I have been trying to figure out what the general population (anywhere) is like.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you generally look at  creation/evolution debates, people actually seem pretty smart. So I&#039;m thinking &quot;how could one reach the smart people with the gospel?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then we have people like those in the audience. People who come across as somewhat ignorant (I don&#039;t mean that in the derogatory sense). &lt;br&gt;So now I&#039;m asking myself &quot;how could one reach THOSE people with the gospel?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then I go out and about with my daily life, and I find neither of these people. So I come to three conclusions:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A) The general population is neither of the above.&lt;br&gt;B) For some reason, the above types of people are missing from the world I actually see day by day&lt;br&gt;C) The above types of people tend to be around each other much, as seen in the video :P Which I guess explains why I see neither type of person on a day by day basis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So ultimately I&#039;m left with one question: &quot;how do I reach the people I DO see on a day by day basis with the gospel?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of audience&#8230;For a while now I have been trying to figure out what the general population (anywhere) is like.</p>
<p>When you generally look at  creation/evolution debates, people actually seem pretty smart. So I&#39;m thinking &#8220;how could one reach the smart people with the gospel?&#8221;</p>
<p>Then we have people like those in the audience. People who come across as somewhat ignorant (I don&#39;t mean that in the derogatory sense). <br />So now I&#39;m asking myself &#8220;how could one reach THOSE people with the gospel?&#8221;</p>
<p>Then I go out and about with my daily life, and I find neither of these people. So I come to three conclusions:</p>
<p>A) The general population is neither of the above.<br />B) For some reason, the above types of people are missing from the world I actually see day by day<br />C) The above types of people tend to be around each other much, as seen in the video :P Which I guess explains why I see neither type of person on a day by day basis.</p>
<p>So ultimately I&#39;m left with one question: &#8220;how do I reach the people I DO see on a day by day basis with the gospel?&#8221;</p>
<p>:P</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://aristophrenium.com/mathew/discussing-god-science-and-sanity/#comment-954</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A most excellent and accurate summation, Rene - I do concur! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We could further conclude that the audience much enjoyed the fact that no one had a clue about what they were saying ... draw from that what you will about what that says regarding the audience ... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A most excellent and accurate summation, Rene &#8211; I do concur! </p>
<p>We could further conclude that the audience much enjoyed the fact that no one had a clue about what they were saying &#8230; draw from that what you will about what that says regarding the audience &#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Rene Mulder</title>
		<link>http://aristophrenium.com/mathew/discussing-god-science-and-sanity/#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Mulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was pretty awful to watch. I would have commented earlier, but I simply had no words for it at that time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think what bothers me about this format is that, even if you manage to ask a good question, you&#039;re not given time to respond to the answer and so if that answer makes you look stupid, the other guy gets praise from the audience :P&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The overall feel of the show I got was &quot;let&#039;s make Christians look stupid and elevate Mr. Dawkins&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But to sum it up I would say: &quot;no one seemed to have a clue about what they were saying&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was pretty awful to watch. I would have commented earlier, but I simply had no words for it at that time.</p>
<p>I think what bothers me about this format is that, even if you manage to ask a good question, you&#39;re not given time to respond to the answer and so if that answer makes you look stupid, the other guy gets praise from the audience :P</p>
<p>The overall feel of the show I got was &#8220;let&#39;s make Christians look stupid and elevate Mr. Dawkins&#8221;.</p>
<p>But to sum it up I would say: &#8220;no one seemed to have a clue about what they were saying&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://aristophrenium.com/mathew/discussing-god-science-and-sanity/#comment-946</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be as pessimistic as to say that real Christianity is long gone - else, blogs like &lt;em&gt;The Aristophrenium &lt;/em&gt;would not exist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Neither would I despair that there are no orthodox theological colleges - I&#039;d rather agree that there are, unfortunately, members of faculty in such institutions who may themselves hold unorthodox views (and thus on that score it would only be by strength of numbers to state that a college was either orthodox or not). And even if so, I still would find it difficult to believe that the ABC were unable to find anyone in Australia who was better educated and more articulate than Fielding when it came to defending a creationist point of view.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my mind, it&#039;s as if the ABC didn&#039;t even try and - perhaps closer to the truth - simply had no desire to present a balanced view for the topic discussed. Of course, I speculate, but I&#039;ve no reason to think I&#039;m far off on that score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#39;t be as pessimistic as to say that real Christianity is long gone &#8211; else, blogs like <em>The Aristophrenium </em>would not exist. </p>
<p>Neither would I despair that there are no orthodox theological colleges &#8211; I&#39;d rather agree that there are, unfortunately, members of faculty in such institutions who may themselves hold unorthodox views (and thus on that score it would only be by strength of numbers to state that a college was either orthodox or not). And even if so, I still would find it difficult to believe that the ABC were unable to find anyone in Australia who was better educated and more articulate than Fielding when it came to defending a creationist point of view.</p>
<p>In my mind, it&#39;s as if the ABC didn&#39;t even try and &#8211; perhaps closer to the truth &#8211; simply had no desire to present a balanced view for the topic discussed. Of course, I speculate, but I&#39;ve no reason to think I&#39;m far off on that score.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Matthew, I don&#039;t know of too many &quot;orthodox&quot; theological colleges in Australia any more. I mean, look at that bastion of orthodoxy, Moore College. Its previous principal, now archbishop, is an evolutionist, the present, in the very least, believes in billions of years. The Uniting Church and Presbyterians, forget them too. And the Catholics..who cares?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Real, historical Christianity is long gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Matthew, I don&#39;t know of too many &#8220;orthodox&#8221; theological colleges in Australia any more. I mean, look at that bastion of orthodoxy, Moore College. Its previous principal, now archbishop, is an evolutionist, the present, in the very least, believes in billions of years. The Uniting Church and Presbyterians, forget them too. And the Catholics..who cares?</p>
<p>Real, historical Christianity is long gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://aristophrenium.com/mathew/discussing-god-science-and-sanity/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that if the ABC had invited a member of Creation Ministries International (who have an Australian office in Brisbane, so are local) or even a professor from one of our many orthodox theological colleges then Prof. Dawkins would have refused to be involved. They didn&#039;t want to lose him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It wouldn&#039;t have taken too much effort to find suitable opposing minds in Australia to sit beside Dawkins in this discussion. But, no - instead they placed Fielding, looking like a stuffed chicken, right next to Dawkins. It was laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that if the ABC had invited a member of Creation Ministries International (who have an Australian office in Brisbane, so are local) or even a professor from one of our many orthodox theological colleges then Prof. Dawkins would have refused to be involved. They didn&#39;t want to lose him.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#39;t have taken too much effort to find suitable opposing minds in Australia to sit beside Dawkins in this discussion. But, no &#8211; instead they placed Fielding, looking like a stuffed chicken, right next to Dawkins. It was laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Baskett</title>
		<link>http://aristophrenium.com/mathew/discussing-god-science-and-sanity/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Baskett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate train wrecks.. Im just not sure I could watch it. It&#039;s really telling though that Dawkins is willing to debate &quot;progressive&quot; Christians and not Christians like William Lane Craig..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate train wrecks.. Im just not sure I could watch it. It&#39;s really telling though that Dawkins is willing to debate &#8220;progressive&#8221; Christians and not Christians like William Lane Craig..</p>
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